3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Link: https://lore.kernel.org/stable/514c425e2b4dca71a11b0c669746d3122f7039a5.came... Link: https://lore.kernel.org/stable/1643877137240249@kroah.com/ Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com --- Documentation/process/2.Process.rst | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst index e05fb1b8f8b6..9ae64376a8d4 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst @@ -130,12 +130,12 @@ for a longer period. As of this writing, the current long term kernels and their maintainers are:
====== ================================ ======================= - 3.16 Ben Hutchings (very long-term kernel) - 4.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin (very long-term kernel) 4.9 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 4.14 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 4.19 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 5.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin + 5.10 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin + 5.15 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin ====== ================================ =======================
The selection of a kernel for long-term support is purely a matter of a
Hi,
Thanks for your patch.
FYI: kernel test robot notices the stable kernel rule is not satisfied.
Rule: 'Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org' or 'commit <sha1> upstream.' Subject: [PATCH] Documentation: process: update the list of current LTS Link: https://lore.kernel.org/stable/20221013183414.667316-1-ndesaulniers%40google...
The check is based on https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/stable-kernel-rules.html
On 10/14/22 01:34, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
I think the table should be keep updated whenever new LTS is announced and oldest LTS become EOL, to be on par with kernel.org homepage.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 09:24:11AM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
On 10/14/22 01:34, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
I think the table should be keep updated whenever new LTS is announced and oldest LTS become EOL, to be on par with kernel.org homepage.
Yeah, I didn't even realize this was in the kernel tree, I've just been keeping kernel.org up to date.
thanks,
greg k-h
On 2022-10-14 09:08:10, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 09:24:11AM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
On 10/14/22 01:34, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
I think the table should be keep updated whenever new LTS is announced and oldest LTS become EOL, to be on par with kernel.org homepage.
Yeah, I didn't even realize this was in the kernel tree, I've just been keeping kernel.org up to date.
How about simply replacing this table with a pointer to https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html so that you don't have to remember to update tables in two different places? It also has the benefit that the documentation is never stale (missing new LTS releases), even when someone is reading the documentation from an older kernel release.
Tyler
thanks,
greg k-h
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 11:34:26AM -0500, Tyler Hicks wrote:
On 2022-10-14 09:08:10, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 09:24:11AM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
On 10/14/22 01:34, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
I think the table should be keep updated whenever new LTS is announced and oldest LTS become EOL, to be on par with kernel.org homepage.
Yeah, I didn't even realize this was in the kernel tree, I've just been keeping kernel.org up to date.
How about simply replacing this table with a pointer to https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html so that you don't have to remember to update tables in two different places? It also has the benefit that the documentation is never stale (missing new LTS releases), even when someone is reading the documentation from an older kernel release.
Sure, that makes more sense!
greg k-h
The existing table was a bit outdated.
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Rather than keep this table updated, it does duplicate information from multiple kernel.org pages. Make one less duplication site that needs to be updated and simply refer to the kernel.org page on releases.
Suggested-by: Tyler Hicks code@tyhicks.com Suggested-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh@linuxfoundation.org --- Changes v1 -> v2: * Rather than update table, use a link as per Tyler and Bagas. * Carry forward GKH's SB tag.
Documentation/process/2.Process.rst | 15 ++++----------- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst index e05fb1b8f8b6..6a919cffcbfd 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst @@ -126,17 +126,10 @@ than one development cycle past their initial release. So, for example, the 5.2.21 was the final stable update of the 5.2 release.
Some kernels are designated "long term" kernels; they will receive support -for a longer period. As of this writing, the current long term kernels -and their maintainers are: - - ====== ================================ ======================= - 3.16 Ben Hutchings (very long-term kernel) - 4.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin (very long-term kernel) - 4.9 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin - 4.14 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin - 4.19 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin - 5.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin - ====== ================================ ======================= +for a longer period. Please refer to the following link for the list of active +long term kernel versions and their maintainers: + + https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html
The selection of a kernel for long-term support is purely a matter of a maintainer having the need and the time to maintain that release. There
base-commit: 9c9155a3509a2ebdb06d77c7a621e9685c802eac
On 2022-10-14 10:10:40, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
The existing table was a bit outdated.
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Rather than keep this table updated, it does duplicate information from multiple kernel.org pages. Make one less duplication site that needs to be updated and simply refer to the kernel.org page on releases.
Suggested-by: Tyler Hicks code@tyhicks.com Suggested-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Changes v1 -> v2:
- Rather than update table, use a link as per Tyler and Bagas.
- Carry forward GKH's SB tag.
Thanks! Was just about to send out that same thing. :)
Reviewed-by: Tyler Hicks (Microsoft) code@tyhicks.com
Tyler
Documentation/process/2.Process.rst | 15 ++++----------- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst index e05fb1b8f8b6..6a919cffcbfd 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst @@ -126,17 +126,10 @@ than one development cycle past their initial release. So, for example, the 5.2.21 was the final stable update of the 5.2 release. Some kernels are designated "long term" kernels; they will receive support -for a longer period. As of this writing, the current long term kernels -and their maintainers are:
- ====== ================================ =======================
- 3.16 Ben Hutchings (very long-term kernel)
- 4.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin (very long-term kernel)
- 4.9 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- 4.14 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- 4.19 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- 5.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- ====== ================================ =======================
+for a longer period. Please refer to the following link for the list of active +long term kernel versions and their maintainers:
The selection of a kernel for long-term support is purely a matter of a maintainer having the need and the time to maintain that release. There
base-commit: 9c9155a3509a2ebdb06d77c7a621e9685c802eac
2.38.0.413.g74048e4d9e-goog
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:10:40AM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
The existing table was a bit outdated.
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Rather than keep this table updated, it does duplicate information from multiple kernel.org pages. Make one less duplication site that needs to be updated and simply refer to the kernel.org page on releases.
Suggested-by: Tyler Hicks code@tyhicks.com Suggested-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Changes v1 -> v2:
- Rather than update table, use a link as per Tyler and Bagas.
- Carry forward GKH's SB tag.
Looks great, thanks!
On 10/15/22 00:10, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
The existing table was a bit outdated.
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Rather than keep this table updated, it does duplicate information from multiple kernel.org pages. Make one less duplication site that needs to be updated and simply refer to the kernel.org page on releases.
Suggested-by: Tyler Hicks code@tyhicks.com Suggested-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Should this patch be backported to all stable releases? I see Cc: stable on message header, but not in the patch trailer.
Some kernels are designated "long term" kernels; they will receive support -for a longer period. As of this writing, the current long term kernels -and their maintainers are:
- ====== ================================ =======================
- 3.16 Ben Hutchings (very long-term kernel)
- 4.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin (very long-term kernel)
- 4.9 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- 4.14 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- 4.19 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- 5.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- ====== ================================ =======================
+for a longer period. Please refer to the following link for the list of active +long term kernel versions and their maintainers:
LGTM, thanks.
Reviewed-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 7:06 PM Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/15/22 00:10, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
The existing table was a bit outdated.
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Rather than keep this table updated, it does duplicate information from multiple kernel.org pages. Make one less duplication site that needs to be updated and simply refer to the kernel.org page on releases.
Suggested-by: Tyler Hicks code@tyhicks.com Suggested-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Should this patch be backported to all stable releases? I see Cc: stable on message header, but not in the patch trailer.
I don't think so; unless people read stable versions of the documentation rather than HEAD? Perhaps I didn't need to cc stable, but I think that's ok for notifying people who are interested in stable, not necessarily strictly for backports? Either way, thanks again for the reviews+suggestions.
Some kernels are designated "long term" kernels; they will receive support -for a longer period. As of this writing, the current long term kernels -and their maintainers are:
====== ================================ =======================
3.16 Ben Hutchings (very long-term kernel)
4.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin (very long-term kernel)
4.9 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
4.14 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
4.19 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
5.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
====== ================================ =======================
+for a longer period. Please refer to the following link for the list of active +long term kernel versions and their maintainers:
https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html
LGTM, thanks.
Reviewed-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com
-- An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara
On 10/18/22 07:04, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
Should this patch be backported to all stable releases? I see Cc: stable on message header, but not in the patch trailer.
I don't think so; unless people read stable versions of the documentation rather than HEAD? Perhaps I didn't need to cc stable, but I think that's ok for notifying people who are interested in stable, not necessarily strictly for backports? Either way, thanks again for the reviews+suggestions.
I think most people will simply read the documentation from master branch (as in docs.kernel.org).
Thanks.
Hi,
Thanks for your patch.
FYI: kernel test robot notices the stable kernel rule is not satisfied.
Rule: 'Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org' or 'commit <sha1> upstream.' Subject: [PATCH v2] Documentation: process: replace outdated LTS table w/ link Link: https://lore.kernel.org/stable/20221014171040.849726-1-ndesaulniers%40google...
The check is based on https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/stable-kernel-rules.html
Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com writes:
The existing table was a bit outdated.
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Rather than keep this table updated, it does duplicate information from multiple kernel.org pages. Make one less duplication site that needs to be updated and simply refer to the kernel.org page on releases.
Suggested-by: Tyler Hicks code@tyhicks.com Suggested-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Applied, thanks.
jon
On 10/19/22 04:44, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com writes:
The existing table was a bit outdated.
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Rather than keep this table updated, it does duplicate information from multiple kernel.org pages. Make one less duplication site that needs to be updated and simply refer to the kernel.org page on releases.
Suggested-by: Tyler Hicks code@tyhicks.com Suggested-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Applied, thanks.
jon
Hi jon,
I noticed extraneous Rule: tag (as carried from kernel test robot [1]) in the applied patch:
commit 394df0afde11fa77c27e671ea91f74cb6440f86e Author: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com Date: Fri Oct 14 10:10:40 2022 -0700
Documentation: process: replace outdated LTS table w/ link
The existing table was a bit outdated.
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Rather than keep this table updated, it does duplicate information from multiple kernel.org pages. Make one less duplication site that needs to be updated and simply refer to the kernel.org page on releases.
Suggested-by: Tyler Hicks code@tyhicks.com Suggested-by: Bagas Sanjaya bagasdotme@gmail.com Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh@linuxfoundation.org Rule: 'Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org' or 'commit <sha1> upstream.' Link: https://lore.kernel.org/stable/20221014171040.849726-1-ndesaulniers%40google... Reviewed-by: Tyler Hicks (Microsoft) code@tyhicks.com Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20221014171040.849726-1-ndesaulniers@google.com Signed-off-by: Jonathan Corbet corbet@lwn.net
The tag doesn't have any purposes, so please drop it.
Thanks.
[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/stable/Y0y8IqEr0SIxHNvl@cbc4ca7ce717/
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:34:14AM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
3.16 was EOL in 2020. 4.4 was EOL in 2022.
5.10 is new in 2020. 5.15 is new in 2021.
We'll see if 6.1 becomes LTS in 2022.
Link: https://lore.kernel.org/stable/514c425e2b4dca71a11b0c669746d3122f7039a5.came... Link: https://lore.kernel.org/stable/1643877137240249@kroah.com/ Signed-off-by: Nick Desaulniers ndesaulniers@google.com
Documentation/process/2.Process.rst | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst index e05fb1b8f8b6..9ae64376a8d4 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst @@ -130,12 +130,12 @@ for a longer period. As of this writing, the current long term kernels and their maintainers are: ====== ================================ =======================
- 3.16 Ben Hutchings (very long-term kernel)
- 4.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin (very long-term kernel) 4.9 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 4.14 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 4.19 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin 5.4 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- 5.10 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin
- 5.15 Greg Kroah-Hartman & Sasha Levin ====== ================================ =======================
The selection of a kernel for long-term support is purely a matter of a
Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
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