The Toolchain Working Group meeting notes from 2010-07-26 are now available at:
https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain/Meetings/2010-07-26
A copy follows.
-- Michael
= Monday 26th July 2010 = == This month's meetings == <<MonthCalendar(WorkingGroups/ToolChain/Meetings,2010,07,,,,WorkingGroups/ToolChain/MeetingTemplate)>>
== Attendees ==
||<rowbgcolor="#333333" rowstyle="color: white; font-weight: bold;"style="text-align: center;">Name ||<style="text-align: center;">Email ||<style="text-align: center;">IRC Nick || || Andrew Stubbs || andrew.stubbs@linaro.org || ams || || Chung-Lin Tang || cltang@codesourcery.com || cltang || || Julian Brown || julian@codesourcery.com || jbrown || || Loïc Minier || loic.minier@linaro.org || lool || || Marcin Juszkiewicz || marcin.juszkiewicz@linaro.org || hrw || || Michael Hope || michael.hope@linaro.org || michaelh || || Scott Bambrough || scott.bambrough@linaro.org || scottb || || Ulrich Weigand || ulrich.weigand@linaro.org || uweigand || || Yao Qi || yao.qi@linaro.org || yao ||
== Agenda ==
* Review action items from last meeting * Feedback on the sprint * Ideas at [[Internal/MichaelHope/ToolChainMockup]] * What's next * Our focus * Release dates * Hardware availability and needs * Benchmark ideas * Open source ones * 'Typical' open source projects such as ffmpeg, libtheora * Closed tests * Next release * Blueprint status * Moving to public phone call * New starter, Chung-Lin Tang . ||<rowbgcolor="#333333" rowstyle="color: white; font-weight: bold;"style="text-align: center;">Blueprint ||<style="text-align: center;">Assignee || || [[https://blueprints.launchpad.net/gcc-linaro/+spec/initial-4.4%7CInitial delivery of Linaro GCC 4.4]] || ams || || [[https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/arm-m-cross-compilers%7CCross Compiler Packages]] || hrw ||
== Action Items from this Meeting ==
* ACTION: Michael to organise and spread next Monday's call in number * ACTION: Michael to re-check release dates and suggest something * ACTION: Michael to rename the intermediate milestone * ACTION: Loic to find the Chrome OS contact name for the records * ACTION: Ulrich to confirm PowerPC approach with Matthias
== Action Items from Previous Meeting ==
* DONE: Go to the sprint * DONE: Loic: announcement for linaro-announce, Andrew and MLH to review before sending * DONE: Andrew will create release via the Launchpad milestone page * DONE: Ulrich to summarise the GDB Thumb 2 issues and post so that Andrew can see if CSL have already done this. * CSL agrees that it is a problem and isn't working on it
== Minutes == * Reviewed the agenda * Michael Hope is now the toolchain lead * Calls will be shifted to a public number starting next Monday * ACTION: Michael to organise and spread number. * Went over release dates * Loic suggested the second Tuesday of every month instead as it gives the rest of working week to handle problems * Michael would like to keep close to the FeatureFreeze/FinalRelease dates so that announcements coincide * ACTION: Michael to re-check dates and suggest something * The next release, due in a week, will be skipped due to no significant changes since last release * ACTION: Michael to rename milestone * Hardware availability * CSL * i.mx51 in their data centre * Julian, Andrew: have IGEPv2 * Yao, Chung-Lin: will get hardware * Loic pointed everyone to the internal hardware availability page * Ulric: is organising hardware * Loic wants to investigate using qemu as a buildd host * Michael will write-up and share his hardware. Everything should move into the data centre later * Benchmarks * Loic noted that we want everything in the open and reproducible, so prefer freely usable benchmarks * Don't want trivial benchmarks * Most commercial benchmarks include the source but have restrictions on sharing the results * Michael asked for suggestions on benchmarks * Michael to look at freely usable benchmarks such as lmbench * Current tickets * Yao and Michael will look at Firefox * Ulrich is investigating the next in the list * Michael would like to send a weekly 'State of the toolchain' update * Consumed by linaro-dev, Ubuntu toolchain maintainers, and perhaps others like Ubuntu kernel maintainers * Loic suggested via Launchpad news * Discussed communication with Ubuntu * All notification to go via Ubuntu toolchain maintainers * U-T-M has responsibility to pass this downstream * Loic talked with a developer on Chrome OS * Interested in trying the toolchain * Currently plain GCC 4.4.1 * Require something very stable * ACTION: Loic to find a name for the records * General want for us to try building Chrome OS using the Linaro toolchain * PowerPC * Ulrich talked with Matthias at the end of the sprint * From a Ubuntu perspective, don't want 4.5 to regress in features vs 4.4 * Revert the 4.4 PowerPC changes, keep SH and MIPS. Ubuntu doesn't support SH or MIPS so no change * ACTION: Ulrich to confirm with Matthias
Next call is on Wednesday